<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Working Things Out]]></title><description><![CDATA[sharing ideas about work and the workforce]]></description><link>https://workingthingsout.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F9gZ!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d331af3-7153-4c8a-9ee0-bf340cc97e37_1024x1024.png</url><title>Working Things Out</title><link>https://workingthingsout.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 11:14:29 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://workingthingsout.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[workingthingsout@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[workingthingsout@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[workingthingsout@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[workingthingsout@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[I-O Psychologists Can Help Shape Education and the Workforce]]></title><description><![CDATA[I-O is not just for organizations...]]></description><link>https://workingthingsout.com/p/i-o-psychologists-can-help-shape</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://workingthingsout.com/p/i-o-psychologists-can-help-shape</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:44:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I tell someone I am an I-O psychologist, they usually say, &#8220;What is that?&#8221; or &#8220;Are you reading my mind right now?&#8221; Okay, we need to improve our brand name, but that is another blog for another day.<br><br><a href="https://www.siop.org/education/for-educators/incorporating-i-o/">I-O psychologists</a> come in many forms, but they all engage in research and organizational practices that ultimately improve employee well-being and organizational effectiveness. To do that, they identify, measure, and evaluate the psychological characteristics and behaviors of people in the workplace.</p><p>For example, the key aspects of understanding job performance are technical (e.g., knowledge and skills), interpersonal (e.g., teamwork and communication), and intrapersonal (e.g., time management and emotional control). Armed with this understanding, I-O psychologists can work with organizations to decide which activities to invest in, such as recruiting, hiring (my research area), training, teamwork, and job redesign.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://workingthingsout.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Working Things Out! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>What is interesting &#8212; and the main point of this blog post &#8212; is how I-O psychologists can contribute in vital ways in understanding, predicting, and creating pathways between education and the workforce. I-O psychologists have made extensive use of the <a href="https://www.onetcenter.org/content.html">O*NET Content Model</a> (Department of Labor) as a way to compare job characteristics and job requirements across occupational categories that cover most of the US labor market.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-lpY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac71c9af-a733-4c96-a0b5-34795420a681_2238x1214.jpeg" width="1456" height="790" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The O*NET Content Model organizes hundreds of variables that describe 923 occupational titles covering most of the US labor market. Notice that the structure of the model aligns well with the three aspects of performance above. Worker Characteristics &#8212; work styles, values, and interpersonal demands &#8212; line up with the interpersonal and intrapersonal skills that increasingly define good work.  Worker Requirements line up with necessary technical skills for an occupation. Experience Requirements reflect the educational investments (training and certification) needed to enter into a given occupation. Specific variables within the Content Model are organized below.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z5pB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bf915ac-f0b1-4529-82ba-f4daddeb1c23_1116x1896.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z5pB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bf915ac-f0b1-4529-82ba-f4daddeb1c23_1116x1896.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z5pB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bf915ac-f0b1-4529-82ba-f4daddeb1c23_1116x1896.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In parallel, educational researchers have been deeply involved in developing a wide variety of skill <a href="http://exploresel.gse.harvard.edu/frameworks/">taxonomies</a> highly relevant to current and future workforce needs (<a href="https://www.ets.org/research/policy_research_reports/publications/report/2023/kgsg.html">here</a> is a comprehensive overview by ETS, 2023). Harvard&#8217;s Explore SEL project even <a href="http://exploresel.gse.harvard.edu/compare-terms/">crosswalks</a> these taxonomies, so you can view how frameworks are related (using different words for similar ideas) and unique (tapping new-yet-important skills). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A-oW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F135335ba-e77b-4268-9294-768f4610ed8d_2456x2002.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A-oW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F135335ba-e77b-4268-9294-768f4610ed8d_2456x2002.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If I-O psychologists could work more closely and more often with educational researchers to align educational taxonomies with O*NET&#8217;s descriptors, both fields would benefit: educators would gain clearer targets for what to teach, and employers would gain a workforce whose preparation better maps onto the skills that jobs and organizations actually demand.</p><p>In thinking about relevant data and research behind building strong education-to-work pathways, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_spike">golden spike</a> at Promontory Point comes to mind, where educational expertise can meet I-O psychology expertise, and a shared, evidence-based vocabulary will connect what students learn to what work requires. This is of course not easy because the number and nature of jobs change as the economy and skills base evolve (hello, AI). But if credentialing (diplomas, certifications, technical training) are better aligned with job descriptions, we will have done better than we have in the past. Educational policymakers and, ultimately, each school and classroom will be put on a stronger track for building the competencies the labor market rewards, doing so with some agility as the supply and demand for skill sets change over time. Helping people understand and pursue greater possibilities in work and in life pays off at multiple levels: individuals, families, and communities, which in turn build a vibrant society and a competitive national economy.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://workingthingsout.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Working Things Out! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Revival]]></title><description><![CDATA[The blog is back!]]></description><link>https://workingthingsout.com/p/revival</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://workingthingsout.com/p/revival</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 00:42:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F9gZ!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d331af3-7153-4c8a-9ee0-bf340cc97e37_1024x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to this blog- it&#8217;s been a while, right? Three years, in fact! A lot has changed in the world since then (e.g., you might suspect this was written by an LLM &#8212; it is not &#8212; even with these em dashes).</p><p>Thank you for keeping me on your radar, and please stay tuned.</p><p></p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://workingthingsout.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Working Things Out! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[It's just math]]></title><description><![CDATA[Part 1.5: Extending Part 1]]></description><link>https://workingthingsout.com/p/its-just-math</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://workingthingsout.com/p/its-just-math</guid><pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:18:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F9gZ!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d331af3-7153-4c8a-9ee0-bf340cc97e37_1024x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first blog post ever can be found as Part 1 (<a href="https://workingthingsout.com/p/at-variance-with-schmidt-and-hunter">here</a>). Some feedback (thank you!) suggests that it will help to reflect a bit further on what that blog <em><strong>was</strong></em> and <em><strong>was not</strong></em> about:</p><ul><li><p>First, the Part 1 blog <em><strong>was about</strong></em> a technical (math) clarification for calculating validity differences in selection systems. Although Schmidt &amp; Hunter (1998) correctly calculated <em>utility </em>differences between two selection systems as the difference in multiple <em>R </em>values<em> </em>(ignoring the cost of testing, etc.), they did not calculate <em>validity </em>differences correctly. Validity differences have to be calculated as the difference between <em>R<sup>2</sup></em> values. You can then report that as &#8710;<em>R<sup>2</sup></em>, or take the square root and report &#8710;<em>R</em>, or do whatever other transformation you would like to make&#8212;so long as it is based on this &#8710;<em>R<sup>2</sup></em> value. My post did not intend to take a stand on what you &#8220;should&#8221; report; instead, the goal was very modest, to focus solely on how to calculate a validity difference correctly.<br><br>Let me reinforce the point with a specific numerical example: Say that a selection system has a multiple <em>R</em> of .20, and after adding more predictors, the multiple <em>R</em> goes up to .30. The difference in utility<em> </em>is a <em>function</em> of validity and is indeed simply <em>R </em>= .30 - .20 = .10 (S&amp;H had this correct). But .10 is <em>not</em> the validity difference, where instead you have to subtract the respective <em>R<sup>2</sup></em> values: &#8710;<em>R<sup>2</sup></em> = .09 - .04 = .05. If you then want to report the <em>R </em>metric instead, you would take the square root of .05 to get <em>R </em>= .22 (&#8230;and not .10).<br><br>This isn&#8217;t new stuff, by the way! (a) In hierarchical linear regression, if you want to report &#8710;<em>R</em>, you cannot just subtract multiple <em>R</em>s from each stage of the regression; you would have to calculate &#8710;<em>R<sup>2</sup></em> and then take the square root. (b) Similarly, if you want the average of two standard deviations, you first must square them (to get variances), then average them, and then take the square root.</p><p></p></li><li><p>Second, given that the Part 1 blog was so narrow and &#8220;mathy&#8221; in scope, it <em><strong>was decidedly not</strong> </em>a commentary on two recent and related papers by Sackett et al. (2022, 2023)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> that update the data and the statistical approach of S&amp;H. Those two papers generated numerous responses<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, and two Sackett et al. replies to those responses<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. As far as I can tell, none of this recent work performs the calculation the Part 1 blog focused on. However, given the timing of these Sackett et al. papers, I probably should have stated that I was not focused on them&#8212;so I&#8217;ll do that now.</p></li></ul><p>OK, whew! Now in my next post, I will turn to Part 2, &#8220;More Adventures in Meta-Analysis,&#8221; which will be <strong>much</strong> more expansive (and less &#8220;mathy&#8221;) than Part 1 was. Yes, here I will refer to the Sackett et al. papers and responses, but in the context of a broader meta-analysis idea. Please stay tuned!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://workingthingsout.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Working Things Out! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sackett, P. R., Zhang, C., Berry, C. M., &amp; Lievens, F. (2022). Revisiting meta-analytic estimates of validity in personnel selection: Addressing systematic overcorrection for restriction of range. <em>Journal of Applied Psychology, 107</em>(11), 2040&#8211;2068. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/apl0000994">https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/apl0000994</a></p><p>Sackett, P., Zhang, C., Berry, C., &amp; Lievens, F. (2023). Revisiting the design of selection systems in light of new findings regarding the validity of widely used predictors. <em>Industrial and Organizational Psychology,</em> <em>16</em>(3), 283-300. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1017/iop.2023.24">https://doi.org/10.1017/iop.2023.24</a></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Oh, I.-S., Le, H., &amp; Roth, P. L. (2023). Revisiting Sackett et al.&#8217;s (2022) rationale behind their recommendation against correcting for range restriction in concurrent validation studies.<em>Journal of Applied Psychology, 108</em>(8), 1300&#8211;1310. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/apl0001078">https://doi.org/10.1037/apl0001078</a></p><p>and 14 replies to Sackett, Zhang, et al. (2023) found here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/industrial-and-organizational-psychology/issue/30929F42437BCF88585C5E2669923D6E</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sackett, P. R., Berry, C. M., Lievens, F., &amp; Zhang, C. (2023). Correcting for range restriction in meta-analysis: A reply to Oh et al. (2023). <em>Journal of Applied Psychology, 108</em>(8), 1311&#8211;1315. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/apl0001116">https://doi.org/10.1037/apl0001116</a></p><p>Sackett, P., Berry, C., Lievens, F., &amp; Zhang, C. (2023). A reply to commentaries on &#8220;Revisiting the design of selection systems in light of new findings regarding the validity of widely used predictors&#8221;. <em>Industrial and Organizational Psychology,</em> <em>16</em>(3), 371-377. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1017/iop.2023.47">https://doi.org/10.1017/iop.2023.47</a></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[At Variance with Schmidt and Hunter (1998)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Part 1: Distinguishing utility gains from validity gains]]></description><link>https://workingthingsout.com/p/at-variance-with-schmidt-and-hunter</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://workingthingsout.com/p/at-variance-with-schmidt-and-hunter</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Oswald]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 00:26:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to research findings, the devil is in the details. Here, I&#8217;d like to discuss Schmidt and Hunter (1998)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>, considered a classic research article in industrial-organizational (I-O) psychology, by most any standard (e.g., cited 6,816 times by Google Scholar at the time of this blogging). The authors bring together information reported across multiple meta-analyses to conclude that cognitive ability tests tend to demonstrate high levels of validity and utility when predicting employee performance. These levels are found to increase even further when cognitive ability tests are combined with other types of employment tests (e.g., work samples, tests of employee integrity, tests of conscientiousness).</p><p>The <em>general</em> conclusion of this article is hard to dispute&#8212;so long as the employment tests in question are conceptually and psychometrically well supported. However, I will put myself at variance with S&amp;H in two ways. The first way is narrow and statistical; it is covered here (Part 1). The second way is much broader and will be covered in a forthcoming blog post (Part 2).</p><p><strong>At Variance with the Variance</strong></p><p>Appealing to fair use<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, let&#8217;s take a look at the often-referred-to Table 1 (S&amp;H, p. 266):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png" width="1346" height="830" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:830,&quot;width&quot;:1346,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:356733,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pqU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9cef0bcb-841a-4cf3-91d4-e32a5d50e609_1346x830.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As my wonderful PowerPoint&#174; flourishes indicate above, the second and third columns of numbers would be correct if these referred to <em>utility</em> &#8212; not validity. When estimating utility (e.g., predicting the dollar value of selecting employees), then word on the street since 1949 is that you should directly subtract the validity coefficients (correlations, multiple <em>R</em>s) of each selection system from one another (Brogden, 1949, p. 183)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png" width="1120" height="80" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:80,&quot;width&quot;:1120,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:20150,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WrBj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fd4778c-e5e2-48f8-9241-44ae577902c6_1120x80.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The left side above is the change in the value of a selection system <em>M</em>, when moving to using selection system <em>a</em>,<em> </em>from selection system <em>b</em>. On the right side, the yellow highlight is the difference in the systems&#8217; respective validities (or multiple <em>R</em>s). Thus, to obtain <em>R<sub>d(utility) </sub></em>the difference in utility that is due to validity, simply calculate:</p><div class="latex-rendered" data-attrs="{&quot;persistentExpression&quot;:&quot;R_{d(utility)}=R_a-R_b&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;BKZJCDOIBU&quot;}" data-component-name="LatexBlockToDOM"></div><p>But in the context of <em>validity</em>, some different math is needed, contrary to the footnotes in Tables 1 and 2 of S&amp;H, both of which state:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png" width="1132" height="44" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:44,&quot;width&quot;:1132,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:22553,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pwrU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18c897b6-6d58-4fd6-b101-074015c98b3c_1132x44.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is incorrect. If you want to express an increase in the <em>validity</em> of a selection system in terms of a multiple <em>R</em>, one cannot simply take the difference between the multiple <em>R</em>s for each system, as we (correctly) did above for utility estimation. Instead, the difference in <em>R<sup>2</sup></em>s for each system (the <em>variance</em> components) need to be subtracted from one another. You could then simply express the difference as an <em>R<sup>2</sup></em> as well (similar to the &#8710;<em>R<sup>2</sup></em> in multiple linear regression)&#8212;or take the square root to report the difference as a multiple <em>R</em>.  The need to focus on variances in validity estimation is why I am &#8216;at variance&#8217; with S&amp;H. &#128526;</p><div class="latex-rendered" data-attrs="{&quot;persistentExpression&quot;:&quot;R_{d(validity)}=\\sqrt{R_a^2-R_b^2}&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;EQIVQDIZOH&quot;}" data-component-name="LatexBlockToDOM"></div><p>Where <em>R<sub>d(validity)</sub></em>  is the multiple <em>R</em> for the difference in validities for two selection systems <em>a </em>and <em>b</em>, where <em>R<sup>2</sup><sub>a</sub></em> &gt; <em>R<sup>2</sup><sub>b</sub></em>. Use of this formula results in <em>validity</em> gains that are much higher than those reported by S&amp;H (again, S&amp;H should be reporting their results as <em>utility</em> gains, not validity gains). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png" width="1456" height="777" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:777,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:323898,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6vhQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d9030bf-510c-48ac-b840-e24ae5ea9ce0_1762x940.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Stay tuned for Part 2, the broader reason that I&#8217;m &#8216;at variance&#8217; with S&amp;H (insert suspenseful Halloween music here, for one because it might take at least that long for me to post again&#8230;).</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://workingthingsout.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Working Things Out! 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The validity and utility of selection methods in personnel psychology: Practical and theoretical implications of 85 years of research findings. <em>Psychological Bulletin, 124</em>(2), 262&#8211;274. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.124.2.262">https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.124.2.262</a></p><p>[Issues raised here also apply to the unpublished <a href="https://home.ubalt.edu/tmitch/645/session%204/Schmidt%20&amp;%20Oh%20validity%20and%20util%20100%20yrs%20of%20research%20Wk%20PPR%202016.pdf">working paper</a> by Schmidt (2016).]</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Brogden, H. E. (1949). When testing pays off. <em>Personnel Psychology, 2,</em> 171&#8211;183. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1744-6570.1949.tb01397.x">https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1744-6570.1949.tb01397.x</a></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>